Grabber and piston settings not saved/loaded in others machine

[Nikolai]

Wwhen you try to use another people machine (forum or steam workshop), the setting of the grabber "grab static objects" and the piston "toggle mode" are never saved. Note that the piston speed and key, and the grabber key are correctly saved/loaded. I think that its related to the update that introduced these changes.

Dont know if happens with another block.

 

[Von]

This bug only happens if your using other people's machines?
The saving and loading works on your computer?

 

[Nikolai]

Yes and yes. Well, I could be wrong but its suspicious that all the pistons that are supposed to be toggled and all grabbers that are grabbing the floor arent set this way when i use others machine.

For example look at this video from another guy, he uses the workshop machine gun and has 4 grabbers at the floor, yet the grabbers arent set to grab:
https://youtu.be/14SQWeVGFMw?t=11m5s

I have the exact same problem. I doubt that the creator forgot to set those 4 grabbers to grab the floor, but could happen. Still its suspicious that happens with all machines i have tested.

 

[jon_joy_1999]

Nikolai, try this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=503262601 one set of wings should fall over, one should remain standing upright.

 

[Nikolai]

gonna try now.

btw, i just asked this user. when i load it pistons arent set to toggle but he said he set them:
http://forum.spiderlinggames.co.uk/...g-fortress-beats-all-levels?p=25734#post25734

 

[Nikolai]

I just tested grabber test. Both of them fall down. Can anyone else test it?

 

[jon_joy_1999]

I have confirmed this bug with my previously linked-to machine. Redownloading it from the workshop causes both sets of wings to fall over instead of one set of wings falling over and one set remaining upright. The original file (tested working for me as of this post), for comparison, is attached to this post.

Attached Files
Grabbertest.bsg

 

[Redstoneman]

Ooooh, so that's what you meant...
In that case it would be nice to have this fixed I:
I doubt releasing v0.11b or v0.12 containing just a simple fix wouldn't bother anyone with "lack" of content. The water guns have so much potential >.>

 

[Von]

Thanks for the reports guys, I've added this to our bugs list. It is very unlikely that it'll be fixed before the next release.
Doing a quick patch for issues still takes a lot of time on our end, so we try to avoid doing them unless its something really problematic that is harming a lot of people's experience. (For example the Steam workshop button).
I hope you guys can understand.

PS: Are there any other blocks that suffer from this issue?

 

[jon_joy_1999]

I've tested all controllable objects

[TABLE="border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0"]
[TR]
[TD]Small Wheel[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Piston[/TD]
[TD]| Toggle is unset[/TD]
[TD]| Flamethrower[/TD]
[TD]| Hold to Fire is unset[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Steering Hinge[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Spinning[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Water Cannon[/TD]
[TD]| Hold to shoot is unset[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Steering Hinge[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Grabber[/TD]
[TD]| Grab Static Objects is unset[/TD]
[TD]| Cannon[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Large Wheel[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Rope Winch[/TD]
[TD]| Start Unwound is unset[/TD]
[TD]| Shrapnel Cannon[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Powered Cog[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Decoupler[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Grenade[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Contractible Spring[/TD]
[TD]| Toggle is unset[/TD]
[TD]| Flying Spiral[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]| Automatic is unset[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


The issue appears to be the block toggleable setting is unset when either uploading to, or downloading from the steam workshop. Key bindings and slider values are maintained correctly.

 

[Von]

I've tested all controllable objects

[TABLE="border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0"]
[TR]
[TD]Small Wheel[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Piston[/TD]
[TD]| Toggle is unset[/TD]
[TD]| Flamethrower[/TD]
[TD]| Hold to Fire is unset[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Steering Hinge[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Spinning[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Water Cannon[/TD]
[TD]| Hold to shoot is unset[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Steering Hinge[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Grabber[/TD]
[TD]| Grab Static Objects is unset[/TD]
[TD]| Cannon[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Large Wheel[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Rope Winch[/TD]
[TD]| Start Unwound is unset[/TD]
[TD]| Shrapnel Cannon[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Powered Cog[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Decoupler[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[TD]| Grenade[/TD]
[TD]| No issue[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Contractible Spring[/TD]
[TD]| Toggle is unset[/TD]
[TD]| Flying Spiral[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]| Automatic is unset[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


The issue appears to be the block toggleable setting is unset when either uploading to, or downloading from the steam workshop. Key bindings and slider values are maintained correctly.

Is this issue only present when using workshop machines or is it the same for other websites sharing .bsg files?

 

[jon_joy_1999]

I've done further testing regarding websites sharing .bsg files I discovered a few blocks I failed to apply to the initial test.
The Small Wheel, Large Wheel, and Powered Cog also exhibit their toggleable setting being unset when downloaded from the Steam Workshop.

For testing against other websites, I've posted to Steam Workshop, and Besiegedownloads.com
I have test files here
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=506364424
and here
and http://www.besiegedownloads.com/machine.php?id=21163
and the original attached to this post

Steam Workshop fails against the original, and Besiegedownloads.com passes against the original

Attached Files
Workshop bug test.bsg

 

[Neutex]

Is this fixed in v0.2? Bump just in case.

 

[Von]

I don't think this got fixed, unless it was unintentionally fixed by the new engine.